I am trying to work up the nerve to go and fight Ultima. My current character lvls are Vaan, Balthier, Fran, and Penelo are lvl 57, Basch and Ashe are 58. I know that the monsters on the way to Ultima begin at lvl 60, but when I went and tried to beat the Hel Wyrm they had him down to only 6 more lifebar refills before I ran out of healing items and MP, and lost. My question is, if they were strong enough to almost beat Hel wyrm shouldn't they be strong enough to beat Ultima as well? If they are not, what lvls do you recommend for beating both??? Thanks in advance!!!