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Drift Guide

Forza Motorsport 4 Walkthrough and Guide by CMBF  
 
 
 



Drift Guide

The first thing that you have to remember is that drifting in real life is massively different than drifting in the game, but also pretty similar... What I mean by that is not so much the obvious points, like having to maintain a ready supply of tyres, and trying not to screw up so bad that you slide your $40,000 tuned ride into a Jersey Barrier, ripping off a quarter panel or worse. No, the difference is in the techniques that you use for drifting.

In a real car you have independent control over all of the pedals, which gives you a lot more options in how you initiate your drift, but in the game you have fewer options -- for example you cannot really use the heel-and-toe technique to drift, but there are still several options that you can use to not only get the drift started and keep it going, but also to acquire the skills to get good at it. Considering the very real buzz that most gamers get from accomplishments like that, it is a worthy goal.

Basic Drifting

Most novice drivers find drifting to be a confusing and often hard to manage challenge, mostly because they do not fully understand the physics involved, so the first thing that we are going to do is examine the process of drifting. If you already have a solid understanding of the drift head to the Advanced Drifting section now. Still with us? Good!

Before you continue reading, please sit back, take a deep breath, and say to yourself "knowledge is power" and then take another deep breath. This really is a skill that you can master, despite the fact that many people find it more difficult to drift in a video game than in real life.

Bear in mind that in real life there are important queues that you have access to that you do not have in a video game. The feel of the tyres on the driving surface, the lateral thrust of the force being applied, and the center of gravity of the car, which when you get really good, becomes an extension of your own body. Regardless of whether you are doing this in real life, or in a video game, what this is really about is controlled force and inertia, and keeping that in mind is one of the keys to your success.

 


Forza 4 Demo Drifting - Onboard cam - 900 Degree

 

The video above illustrates the major advantages of using a steering wheel controller as opposed to the standard game pad -- the gamer who posted it overlying a shot of the controlled on top of the game video synced together to illustrate the relationship between the moves on screen and their controller moves. While you can still master drifting using the game pad, clearly the wheel has benefits.


The Magic Force Called "Inertia"

Inertia is the word that we use to describe the behavioral characteristics of matter and movement -- in other words the properties of motion. The basic rules governing inertia go back to Sir Issac Newton's first two laws of physics:

Law 1. An object at rest tends to stay at rest.

Law 2. An object in motion tends to stay in motion.

At its very basic level, inertia is defined as the quality in matter (matter being anything you can touch) that permits it to remain motionless when it is not moving, or maintains motion when it is moving. To create inertia you must apply force (transfer energy) to the object. To overcome inertia you must also apply force to counteract the energy that it has.

Force will cause something that is still to begin to move; an easy to grasp example of this is when you are playing pool and you strike the cue ball with the pool stick, and the ball hits another ball that is at rest, transferring some of its energy to the ball that is hit, and altering its state from rest to motion. The ball that is set into motion by this contact moves slower than the cue ball because only some of the energy is transferred to it -- this is due to the resistance that is present in its state of non-motion. Conversely when two balls are in motion in opposite directions and strike each other, the two colliding energy forces counteract each other -- both are transferring energy to each other, and because the energy is moving in opposing directions, the transferred energy has the effect of canceling inertia.

In drifting this basic formula is what you must overcome in order to maintain your drift.. Consider the motive force of your car, which is provided by its engine and transmission, to be the positive energy source. This energy is transferred through the drive train to the wheels, and through the wheels to the driving surface. Under normal conditions a very small amount of the energy automatically dissipates due to the resistance provided by a combination of the driving surface and the air around you, bleeding off the energy so that if you remove the source of positive energy -- take your foot off the gas and put the car in neutral -- the resistance (counter-energy) of the surface combined with the air around you will eventually cause your car to come to a complete stop.

To maintain a drift you must break the connection between the driving surface and both of your rear wheels while at the same time exerting a controlled measure of positive energy sufficient to overcome the resistance that is applied by the negative inertia of the driving surface, and the air around you, while controlling the direction of your motion. It really is as simple as that.

Into the Drift

The process of Drifting at its most basic level refers to a driving technique in which you intentionally over steer into curves, initiating loss of traction in the rear wheels while at the same time maintaining control of the car largely with the front wheels, both creating and overcoming inertia at the same time. You do this by applying power to an imaginary path that we call slip angles.

The technical definition of the process of accomplishing this is to create a condition in which the rear slip angle is greater than the front slip angle prior to approaching the corner apex, at which point control is retained through the front wheels, by pointing them in the opposite direction of the turn -- meaning that when the car is entering a left turn and you have broken the traction of the rear wheels and entered the drift state, the front wheels are turned (over-steered) to the right, providing the driver with control over the inertia as the energy either builds or is expelled in what should be a smooth and predictable arc.

What you are actually doing when this happens is exploiting coupled nonlinearities in the tyre force response by exerting energy and control to sustain the sideslip -- drifting in other words!

In simple terms this means that once you have broken the connections (traction) between the surface and the rear wheels, the car is now in a controlled skid under power, and heading in an outward arc matching the turn. To maintain that arc, you use the front wheels by steering in the opposing direction of the skid, so that you maintain the uneven slip angles of the front and the rear tyres.

Normally you brake into a curve and accelerate out of it, but when you are drifting you accelerate into the curve, through the curve, and out of the curve, leaving the curve at a vastly higher speed than when you entered it.

This is far easier to do in a rear-wheel drive car that is equipped with a standard rather than an automatic transmission -- but if you are really skilled you can not only drift an all-wheel drive or even front-wheel drive car, you can do it with an automatic transmission as well!

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Car Park Drifting

 

Car Park Drifting demonstrates that you do not need either high speed or a lot of room to drift.

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Advanced Drifting

This is where we get to the nitty gritty of drifting -- how to make it happen, how to keep it happening, but more important than that, how to control it. It is critical that you quickly embrace the notion that to get good at this, it is something you will need to practice. Oh, you can unlock the Achievement easily using the guide for that process that is also included in this walkthrough, but if what you want is to be a drifter, simply unlocking that Achievement is not going to be enough for you.

So now it is time to talk about how to enter the drift state in the game, using the different techniques that are actually available to you in the game.

Before you try any of these, bear in mind that which you choose relates directly to the car you are driving, its setup, and the assists you have turned on. You are advised that turning off breaking, handling, and steering assists is a minimum set of steps you will need to complete to really have full control over your car in drifting -- but you should also be aware that doing this makes the car behave like it really would in real life, including susceptibility to all of the forces of inertia. That means it can go bat-shit nuts if you apply too much energy (force) at the wrong time, or you over-steer in the extreme -- because the game is going to assume you meant to do that, and it is going to let you do it!

-- Tuning Your Drift Car --

The first thing that you have to change when setting up a drift car is adding a mechanical limited slip differential (LSD). The preferred form of LSD for drifting is the 2-way clutch type, and then you want to upgrade the clutch to the strongest model available for you car. Of course if you have damage set to appearance only this will not matter as much, but it is a good idea anyway.

Finally you will want to alter the gearsets in your car so that they have closer ratios in order to keep the engine within the power band range.

You can use the standard road-racing suspension and get good results, but jacking up the spring rates will provide a more uniform rate of energy transfer, and using a stiff sway bar will make it a lot easier to break the traction as you enter your turns.

For your engine you will want to tune it so that peak HP is reduced in order to have a wider torque band for easier throttling, regardless of the engine size. Meaning that if you have a mid-size engine or a monster Hemi, you still want it set up this way as that gives you maximum control over acceleration.

Adjustments to steering in order to provide a greater steering angle are widely considered to be a must-do, but it is not really clear how big an advantage this actually provides in the game. Maybe if you are using a steering wheel controller it will be noticeable, but if you are using the standard game pad? Not so much.

Tyre selection is the area that many new drifters make the biggest mistake in -- choosing a tyre that has a lower traction rating thinking that this will help with drifting. In fact it actually makes it harder to drift. You want to be using the tyre with the best traction rating, because the maximum amount of tyre grip is necessary to sustain speed and stability in a drift.

The Drive Setup: regardless of what the stock setup is for the car, you are going to want to change it to Rear-Wheel Drive (RWD) because that is the golden focus. It is simply easier to drift in RWD as opposed to FWD or AWD. Once you get really good at RWD drifting you might want to try it with the other formats, but for now just get good at RWD drifting, right?

As you get better at tuning, you will want to experiment with adjusting the camber and wheel loading to refine how the car behaves when you are transitioning from side to side, but this is far less important than the previous adjustments for the early through medium skill levels, so don't fixate on getting this right until you have enough experience to understand what the adjustments actually do -- which is only going to come with building skill and experience in drifting!

-- Drifting Techniques --

The following techniques can be used in Forza 4 depending upon the setup if your car and what assists you have. For example some will require you to be doing both clutch AND shifting, not simply shifting. Some can be adapted for use with an automatic transmission but you will likely find that your results in that case are less predictable and harder to control...

There are basically two schools here -- brake and clutch. We will look at brake first, because that is what you will probably start with as a novice, and then examine clutch, which is what you really want to be working towards mastering.

-- Emergency Brake Drift

This is probably the most basic drifting technique period, and if you played games like Need for Speed and GT this is the one you are familiar with. The process is simple: as you enter the turn you stomp (push) on the emergency brake, locking the back wheels, and maintain that lock all the way through the turn, steering to get the longest highest arc that you can as the back end swings out.

Technically this is drifting, sure, and you can use it on really abrupt turns to get a drift score, but I have noticed that on shallower turns often the game simply does not recognize this as a drift! It treats it as a skid, and you do not get drift points for doing it!

-- Long Emergency Brake Drift

This technique is used for drifting on long and wide straightaway sections of track. Basically you accelerate to a high speed (over 100 MPH) and engage the Emergency Brake while swaying the car to put it into a flat drift, and then maintain the drift by keeping the tyres spinning and controlling your angle of attack by keeping it shallow, so that you are basically sliding down the straightaway.

An alternate tactic is to do this while approaching a turn; using the Emergency Brake to initiate a long drift and then maintaining it into the turn so that you can use the added inertia created by gravity in the turn to extend this drift over a much longer path that is a combination of the slide turning into an arc.

While this is a simple technique, it is really an extension of the Emergency Brake Drift, so you will need to have mastered that before you add this one to your repertoire.

-- Braking Drift

As you enter the turn apply the brakes to push the car’s weight onto the front wheels; this causes the rear wheels to rise, breaking their traction. You then use a combination of braking and accelerating along with steering to maintain the drift without locking up the back wheels (keeping them spinning).

-- Choku-Dori Swaying Drift

This technique is used to build lateral force adding energy from the first phase of the drift into the second, and is accomplished by putting the car into a long sliding straight drift in the opposite direction of the approaching turn, and then slewing (swaying) the car into the direction of the turn, transferring most of the energy from the first phase into the second.

 


Choku-Dori performed by Mr. Yasuyuki Kazama

 

As you can see in the video in the first phase of the drift the rear wheels are spinning but in the second phase they are locked up. Most drifters use a combination of clutch and then brake for this. The second phase is easier accomplished by using the Emergency Brake rather than the main brakes.

-- Clutch Kick Drift

This is the most basic technique, used by most novice drifters because it works every time. As you approach the turn, engage the clutch and apply the gas to raise the RPM, then as you enter the turn immediately downshift while maintaining the high RPM and pop the clutch.

What happens is that the transmission engages smoothly, causing an instant increase in power to the rear wheels, which immediately breaks their traction. This is the technique that is used when you see the drifter smoking into the drift.

-- Shift Lock Drifting

As you approach the turn entrance you quickly downshift, dropping the RPM to slow the drive train; when you pop off the clutch completing the downshift causes the rear wheels to lock up, breaking their traction.

 


Forza 4 Demo Drift Montage

 

As you watch the YouTube video above pay attention to the sound -- the constant acceleration that is required for Power Drifting, and how well controlled the car is in this mode of drifting.

-- Power Drift

This is the most complicated type of drift for most racers, and it requires a deft hand on the wheel and a real understanding of where the power is going. Basically you accelerate into and through the entire turn, causing the back end to swing out at a sharper slip angle than the front wheels, causing the weight to shift upon exit. This can only be accomplished in a car that has a lot of horsepower.

Some Final Advice

If you are really new to drifting or to racing in Forza you might find that these lessons come a lot easier if you start out on an open oval track (there are several in the Test Track) so that you can begin in a lower gear and at a lower speed.

Star out in first gear, and just get used to steering around in the circle and arc pattern. Once you get used to that, go up a gear, and keep doing this until you are comfortable driving in tight and wide arcs, then start learning to do small and well-controlled drifts.

The best way to do that is to use the Emergency Brake to break the traction and then release it and accelerate to keep the wheels spinning while you work the steering. Once you complete the drift -- no matter how brief that drift is before your car automatically straightens to correct for what is obviously an unnatural condition, you will now know what it feels like to drift!

Concentrate on larger and longer drifts, and by doing this you will build the skill and confidence that you need to go out on to a real track and make that car scream.



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Thanks for sharing mates.

CMBF
Added 16th Dec 2014, ID #485314

 
Just made a jelly tune (drift tune) on a bmw me e30 swap with another bmw v8 engine good hp but hor to controll good for beginers like me

Guest
Added 30th Nov 2014, ID #478809

 
How to lock a car into a circular motion that would allow a driver to step out of the car with the car still doing doughnuts??!!

Guest
Added 21st Oct 2014, ID #461199

 
also if the normal clutch kick isnt working (engaging clutch and emidetly downshifting) try engaging the clutch while giving it gas and up shift and your tires will spin and the if nessessery you can down shift
also excuse my spelling
HOPE I HELPED

Guest
Added 11th Jun 2014, ID #397489

 
if you want a basic tune or a rule of thumb for a drift tune, just make sure you give the front end a little bit more camber, dont be a jdm freak and try and get them sideways but just a little helps you get more angle and raise the caster angle i usually go to 6.0 then make sure your diff is 100% both ways, and stiffen up the suspension but thats all i really do to mine and i keep up with anyone else i've ever played and i dont even own a gaming console ... i love forza way too much

Guest
Added 16th Mar 2014, ID #364890

 
(camber) -3.0(F) -0.5(R)
(toe) 3.0(F) -3.1(R)
(caster) 4.4
(differential)100/90
this setup is for a specific vehicle @ a specific weight with a specific tyre width & compound.
anti-roll,springs(kgf/mm),ride height,rebound,bump,brake balance & force you must figure out for yourself, every car is different every mod makes a difference, but the camber & toe settings are a basic setting for drifting, caster will also vary from car to car.
(use this setup only as a guide/test then go from there)

Guest
Added 6th Jul 2013, ID #295479

 
Can someone post a good tuning guide for a car..

Guest
Added 9th Jun 2013, ID #288908

 
Hey I just sent you a request. I wanna learn drifting too, set up a b or a class drifter and let's tandem. I can watch you then you can watch me. Give each other advice so on so forth

Guest
Added 22nd Apr 2013, ID #276472

 
how many hours of practice do you normally have to put in before you begin to get the hang of it?? i know everyone operates on a different skill level, but im sayin for the "average" skilled forza enthusiast? if anyone would be willing to help me out that would be highly appreciated, my gamertag is iNeedm0repoWer. just send me a msg, i have nobody to race with or drift with. oh yea, im a 25yr old male, not creepy, not a moron, just want ppl to drift with.

Guest
Added 5th Apr 2013, ID #270667

 
I love Sir Issac Newton. He was an English Astronomer.

Guest
Added 24th Mar 2013, ID #266786

 
What about tire pressure

Guest
Added 14th Feb 2013, ID #254221

 
Thanks for the great guide!

Guest
Added 10th Nov 2012, ID #207342

 
I think an AUDI R8 wold be good for drifting,an AWD one, Either do AWD or RWD. IF you want to drift in a shelby ( FORD MUSTANG ) Tune it so maybe the back is heavier, if you want to see a swing, make the back 51+ and the front 49- or you probably wont get the swing. The swing part is for most cars.

Guest
Added 2nd Nov 2012, ID #204183

 
For those looking for setups... Every car is different, but try this and add or subtract to your comfort. Front camber: -2.0 rear camber: - 3.5 (i leave toe alone, but if you want extra tail happy effect adjust rear toe OUT maybe 1 degree at most). Caster I set to 4.5 (the lower, the more negative camber you run in the corners. good for front traction). Stiffen the hell out of your sway bars (30.50 front 27.80 rear) spring rate should be almost 100lbs over stock. as for rebound and bump, just a lb or two more (still wanna handle bumps). braking 60% to the front. and diff set to 100% accel and 75% decel. this is how my '92 silvia with factory motor (fully upgraded) is set up. (586hp and 487tq and weighs 2242lbs). Hope I helped!
~Steer with the rear~

Guest
Added 5th Sep 2012, ID #183690

 
the best drifting car of the game is the BMW E30 M3 !

Guest
Added 11th Aug 2012, ID #174710

 
To tell you the truth, on forza 4 i drift quite well, the Only thing i alter in the tune setup is the camber, and although that does help abit in drifting, i do it just for looks and stance. I have never tuned my lsd, dont think you really need it. But what is it? And would it help with drifting??

Guest
Added 9th Jul 2012, ID #161964

 
You can clutch kick with an awe vehicle

Guest
Added 8th Jul 2012, ID #161824

 
I drift mostly in a nissan gtr-34r and I have well...NO idea what I am doin... HELP? I cant drift on the straights and therefore I can't hold my points...The only track I can get highscores on is FUJIMI KAIDO...

Guest
Added 26th Jun 2012, ID #157190

 
I drift in 4WD cars but with about 90% of the power going to the back, this way you get more angle ( more points ) but the front wheels keep you in check

Guest
Added 1st Jun 2012, ID #147569

 
Any recomended tracks?

Guest
Added 31st May 2012, ID #147424

 
Choice of gears for drifting depends both on the car your using and the type of corner you are taking at that point. Sometimes, in all fairness, even the track your driving on can also make a difference. As for the clutch, you dont realy have to use it. Some drifters will tell you to use it as it can make all the difference between a good drift and a great one. Me personally, i dont use the clutch, just manual with all assists turned off. For some of the more high powered cars, leaving the ABS on can help wuth the control of the drift aswell (which i only recently found out, purely by accident). This more works when your car is high on BHP, low on weight. When using the LSD (Limited Slip Differential, 2way) Try and keep the accel setting higher than the deccel setting, about 8-15 points apart should keep you right. If you still have some problems with the setup of the car, there are plenty of setups for you try out on the storefront. Some work some dont, it realy is trial and error when it comes to applying other peoples drift setups. Most of the reasons for this is that it is setup to work with that particular user and how they drive. I do, however have 2 gamer tags for you to search out if you find yourself in real need of a good drift setup. These are domesticmango find his videos on youtube and you'll see what his setups are realy capable of pulling off. Then you have H1GHLAND3R1980 for your more easier to control drift setups. Some have been updated on the storefront after testing and re-testing on some of the first cars that were done for FM4.
Hope that some of this may help with anyones queries and all the best on your road to drifting!!!!!!!

Guest
Added 30th May 2012, ID #147084

 
I usually drift with manual and not clutch so it is mainly how comfortable you are with different scenarios. I usually drift in about 2nd or 3rd gear but it depends on the car you use.

BlkWlf88
Added 22nd Apr 2012, ID #136178

 
is it possible to drift with manual transmission but not using a clutch?

Guest
Added 9th Apr 2012, ID #131187

 
you can also make some setups that makes that u can be in a 90`

Guest
Added 14th Feb 2012, ID #114932

 
Yes you can power drift in a 4wd car in the game.

Guest
Added 10th Feb 2012, ID #113530

 
I CAN DO DRIFTS THAT GIVES ME 4 BARS ON THE GAME. BUT MOST OF THE TIME, I TEND TO LOSE IT DUE TO OVERSTEER. ITS PRETTY HARD ! LOL!!! BUT I'M BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND THRU TRIAL AND ERROR. I MOSTLY DO THE DRIFTING IN 3RD OR 4TH GEAR. IS THIS THE RIGHT WAY?? NWAYZ, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO DRIFTING ON FM4. YOU GUYZ ARE THE BEST.

Guest
Added 24th Jan 2012, ID #109024

 
I need a fwd set up can anyone help gamer tag bigdaddy91210

Guest
Added 24th Jan 2012, ID #108902

 
how about a actual setup some of us know how to drift just not setup the car

Guest
Added 19th Jan 2012, ID #107471

 
The last person who commented prob just copy and pasted that tryn to sound smart with big words, u can say the same thing in much easier terms

1. An object at rest says at rest, and an object in motion stays in motion unless there is an external force acting on the object
2. Force=mass*acceleraction (see how much easier that one is to understand)
3. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

Guest
Added 13th Jan 2012, ID #105321

 
First law: The velocity of a body remains constant unless the body is acted upon by an external force.
Second law: The acceleration a of a body is parallel and directly proportional to the net force and inversely proportional to the mass
Third law: The mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear.

Also the Power drift and clutch kick cannot be done in 4WD or FWD cars

Guest
Added 6th Jan 2012, ID #103437

 
oh and i forgot, of course re-engage the clutch after each downshift, very important

IDIOsyncraTic
Added 6th Jan 2012, ID #103402

 
heel-and-toe is just a technique to rev match a downshift while braking. you don't use it to initiate a drift, just to keep the rpm's in the proper power band. while braking and you want to make a downshift, just hit the clutch and right when you tap the button to downshift also tap on the throttle. you can keep doing this successively down the gears. more fun to do IRL tho.

IDIOsyncraTic
Added 6th Jan 2012, ID #103400

 
Geting those video links fixed asap, thanks for letting us know.

Team SuperCheats
Added 5th Jan 2012, ID #102934

 
Theres no more Video links?

Guest
Added 3rd Jan 2012, ID #102506

 
Good guide and all but you should probably touch up on your physics knowledge before you write about it. For example, you don't create inertia. Inertia is property of all matter due to it having mass. Also, a force does not necessarily cause something at rest to move and so on and so on.... Many false statements were made in that section. But otherwise the drifting section was very useful.

Guest
Added 2nd Nov 2011, ID #84719

 
 
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