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Seth FAQ

by ViewtifulBrohan

==Table of Contents==
SF00-Contact Stuff
SF01-Intro
SF02-Pros/Cons
SF03-Character Specific Stats
SF04-Core Normals
SF05-General Strategy
SF06-Combo Section
SF07-Frame Data
SF08-Arcade Edition Buffs/Nerfs
SF09-Closing Statement
SF10-Special Thanks

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==SF00-Contact Stuff===========================================================

If you have any questions, concerns, tips for my faq email me at 

[email protected]


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Copyright 2010 ViewtifulBrohan


If in case you have specific questions that you need answered personally, and
a pc is not in your reach, hit me up on PSN, MYsticBrohan, I'll gladly answer
any questions that you have, and I'll help you practice. Keep in mind I'm a 
pad player trying to learn stick, so to more advanced players, don't expect any
decent fights, i'm still getting the hange of it! I'll be on around 9am to 1,
then 6 to 8ish, North America Pennsylvania. 

==SF01-Intro===================================================================

Seth is a main antagonist of Super Street Fighter 4, and is looking to harness
Ryu's Satsui no Hado[Surge of Murderous Intent] to create a new super weapon 
or something...if you want a good synopsis check out the street fighter wiki.

Anyway Seth takes moves from several fighters, and copies them, albeit each
copied ability is slightly worse than where he got it from. So he's a swiss
army knife of sorts, he does alot of things, but isn't excellent in them. His
damage is very low, and he has a stun and stamina rating to match, however the
amount stun he does per combo is massive, and he is explosive on rushdown, his
defensive game is good too. Overall, your going to want to play smart, 
switching from offense to defense when needed.

*note*
This guide is written with the PS3 version of SSF4 in mind, but all combos 
and strategies can be used on the Xbox360 version as well.

==SF02-Pros/Cons===============================================================

Pros
+Has a Fireball
+Good Defensive game
+His Crossup move, Jumping Hard Kick does massive stun, decent damage/range
+Good Rushdown with his divekick
+Has a teleport and command grab
+Good Utility for Ultras
+Wall Jump

Cons
-Low stamina, lowest in the game
-Low stun meter as well
-Poor Damage on his combos, he needs meter to do any good damage
-Slow Footspeed

==SF03-Character Specific Stats================================================

Stamina: 750
Stun Meter; 750
Average Damage: 160-240
Tier Placement: High Tier

[Sonic Boom]
Slightly smaller than Guile's Sonic Boom it's Still a good fire ball
and is one of Seth's main defensive tools. The light punch version is the 
slowest, and Heavy Punch is the fastest, and all three versions do the same
damage. EX Sonic Boom is two Sonic Booms that come out shortly after another,
and do less than a single sonic boom seperately. You'll want to do this from 
mid to long range, the recovery on it is similar to Ken's so using it up close
will proboly get you comboed if they jump over it. As far as combo usage goes,
your best best is to cancel it from a crouching medium kick, but even then your
better off using Shoryuken or Hyakuretsukyaku because of their superior damage/
stun. It's when you have meter that you start should start using this move, it 
deals enough hitstun that you can Focus cancel into a level 2 focus attack, 
which will in turn let you continue your combo to deal further damage/stun. 
Overall a good move.

Rating:7.5/10
Input: QCF+Any punch button

Hyakuretsukyaku-Has the same name as Chun li's kick but is completly different
otherwise. Seth does a short dash forward and unleashes more than a dozen kicks
for alot of stun, you'l mainly be ending combos with this, more specifically
the Light or Medium Kick versions, Heavy kick is non comboable off of alot of 
Seths normals. In the corner you can follow up after this into his Divekick 
Combo[Diagonal Jump, \/MKx3, \/HK], while it's EX version gives Fireball 
invincibility to stop a trigger happy shoto. Overall you'll only want to use 
this move in combos, the recovery on block is just so bad that you shouldn't
risk mashing it out, because any decent player will combo you into oblivion for
it.

Rating:8/10
Input:QCB+Any Kick button

[Shoryuken]
Your standard Dragon Punch, use Medium and Heavy Punch Shoryukens as
anti airs, although an anti air Light Punch Shoryuken will let you follow up
with your Divekick Combo. You'll mainly be want to use this by hit confirming
your standing heavy punch, it'll be your bread and butter combo ender besides 
Hyakuretsukyaku. When you want to keep pressure up close, use Shoryuken, but 
if you want to play a more cheesy, defensive Seth, end your combos with 
Hyakuretsukyaku.

Rating:8/10
Input:Forward, Down, Down Forward+Punch, can be repeated twice

[Spinning Piledriver]
Almost identical to Zangief's Command grab in every area
except damage, in that his EX Piledriver does the same damage as Zangief's
Light Version[Doesn't make alot of sense, Seth is physically as bulky as Abel
and his command grab is stroger than Zangief's <_<] Anyway, you can still use
Spinning Piledriver the same way you could with Zangief, on your opponent's 
wakeup, your wakeup ect, only use the Light punch version, it has the most 
range. An easy way to use SPD without doing a full 360 motion is by inputing
forward, hitting every direction until you get to Up back, and then hitting 
punch. This will allow you to do SDP a bit faster and more importantly without 
a jump.

Rating:10/10
Input: Forward, Down Forward, Down, Down Back, Back, Up Back+Punch

[Yoga Teleport]
Teleport used to get out of sticky situations. It has good 
recovery, but there is a small window in which Seth is left vurnerable to 
attack after the teleport. Other than that Seth's Yoga teleport is inferior
to Dhalsim's in every way, you can't use it in the air the recovery is very
slightly longer ect. Use this when your getting hammered at close range, or on
wakeup to get away and rethink your situation. OVerall this move still works
pretty well with the stretchy punch normal, just not as well as it does with
Dhalsim.

Rating:8/10
Input: Forward, Down, Down Forward+Punch/Kick  OR 
       Back, Down Down Back+Punch/Kick

[Tanden Engine]
Used to pull opponent toward you, light sucks you in from the 
least distance, and heavy the most. this move works really well as a combo
extender, it doesn't count as a hit in your combo so damage scaling doesnt 
affect it. Tanden Engine also draws the other fighter in as closely as possible
allowing you to do some pretty sick things[that will be covered in the combo
section], but all this comes at a cost. The priority this move has is pretty 
low, meaning you can't throw it out whenver, and that you can only properly
combo it off of a few normals that in turn are limited combowise. EX Tanden
Engine has some increased priority and can pull people out of the air, but it 
costs 2 EX Bars, which can be better spent.

Rating:7/10
Input: QCB+Punch

[Tanden Stream]
His Ultra 1, it's main use is to shut down fireball games because of it's speed
and priority overall almost everything. Use it during the other fighter's move
and watch them get sucked in and spit back out against the screen for a 
dazzling 200 damage! If you couldn't tell I'm being sarcastic, this move does
around the same damage as a combo, but this ultra's main use is to shut down
the other payer and give them that psychological fear that you'll activate your
ultra to punish anything they do. As far as combos go only crouching Hard Punch
will let you connect with this, but you by and large have much better combo 
options than Tanden Stream to use after this, so only do it if you want to 
show off.

Rating:9/10
Input:Double QCF+All three Punches

[Tanden Typhoon]
Tanden Typhoon is a great ultra if you want to play a more offensive game.
You can Focus Attack, Dash Cancel into it, and combo it after your 
Hyakuretsukyaku in the corner, can be used as an anti air, and even does more
damafe than your Ultra 1. However this move, if blocked, isn't nearly as safe
as Tanden Stream, and I guarentee that you'll be violently comboed if it is.
It's really a toss up between which ultra to use, I personally use Tanden 
Typhoon because I play a pure rushdown style, but if you play defensively, or 
like to have a bit of insurance if you're losing, than pick Tanden Stream.

Rating:8/10
Input:Double QCB+All three Punches


==SF04-Core Normals============================================================

These are Normals that you'll see yourself using alot, they usually have good
range, damage, are safe ect.


1]Jumping Heavy Kick-Is your main crossup tool, does beastly stun, good range.

2]Jumping Medium Punch-When Used as an air to air, it allows you to follow up
with your DiveKick Combo, or Shoryuken.

3]Divekick Combo-Allows you to end you bread and butter combos with that extra
bit of damage and stun.

4]Close Standing Heavy Punch-Good in combos, you'll be hit confirming this
along with crouching Light Punch to land any and all of your specials.

5]Standing Heavy Punch-Dhalsim's stretchy arm punch. Good for zoning/turtling 
when coupled with his Dragon Punch and Sonic Boom.

6] Neutral Jumping Heavy Punch/Back Jumping Heavy Punch-See 5

7]Standing Medium Kick- Very good poke, has decent range and does good damage.
It's also safe on block

8]Close Standing Heavy Kick-Good Stun and is comboable, very similar to Ryu's
Step Punch and Akuma's Double Roundhouse in principle.

9]crouching Heavy Punch-Sets you up to juggle with all of you specials/ultras/
normals. The startup is a little bit slow, so don't throw it out raw very often


==SF05-General Strategy========================================================

Coming Soon

==SF06-Combo Section===========================================================

These combos are, for the most part, what you'll be going for in a real match,
they're in no particular order, but the harder ones will be closer towards the 
bottom.

Legend:

LP-Light Punch
MP-Medium Punch
HP-Heavy Punch
LK-Light Kick
MK-Medium Kick
HK-Heavy Kick
crLP-Crouching Light Punch
crMP-Crouching Medium Punch
crHP-Crouching Heavy Punch
crLK-Crouching Light Kick
crMK-Crouching Medium Kick
crHK-Crouching Heavy Kick
FADC-Focus Attack Dash Cancel


1]crLK, crLP, crLP, crMP, Hyakuretsukyaku

2]crLK, crLP, HP, Heavy Shoryuken

3]crHP, Light Shoryuken, Divekick Combo
		
4]Crossup HK, crLK, crLP, crMP, Hyakuretsukyaku

5]Crossup HK, crLP, HP, Heavy Shoryuken

6]crLKX2, LP, crMK, Sonic Boom

7]Jumping HP, crLP, crMp, Hyakuretsukyaku

8]crHP, Jumping MP, EX Shoryuken, EX Tanden Engine, crHP, Jumping MP, 
EX Shoryuken

9]Focus Attack, Tanden Engine, crLKX2, LP, crMK, Sonic Boom, Focus Attack, 
Tanden Engine, crLK, LK, LP, crMK, Sonic Boom, Focus Attack, Tanden Engine,
crLKx2, LP, crMP, Hyakuretsukyaku, Divekick Combo

10]Focus Attack, Tanden Engine, crLKX2, LP, crMK, Sonic Boom, Focus Attack, 
Tanden Engine, crHP, Light Sonic Boom, FADC, Tanden Typhoon

11]crLK, crLP, HP, Sonic Boom, Focus Attack, Tanden Engine, crLKX2, LP, crMK, 
Sonic Boom, Focus Attack, Tanden Engine, HK, crLP, crMP, Hyakuretsukyaku   


==SF07-Frame Data==============================================================

Below is a link to Seth's frame data. [I'll have an actual chart made in a 
future update.] A frame is simply put the amount of time somthing takes up in
a game. For example, a certain move wold have a one frame startup, one active
frame, and one cooldown frame. Most games run at 60 FPS[frames per second],
so this theoretical move would take up a time frame of 3 frames, or 3/60 of a
second. Ideally, the best kind of move would have 1 startup frame, and 1
cooldown frame, but to my knowledge, no one in the history of fighting games 
has a move like that...
 

http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2009/apr/18/seths-frame-data-street-fighter-4/

==SF08-Closing Statement=======================================================

Street Fighter is not an easy game to play, regular combo links can seem like
hell to you at first, you may want to mash, or do a number of other things.
Some people are just naturally better than others at some things, but no matter
you age, skill, ect, working hard at something always helps-There's no gap
you can't overcome with a little hard work,That might mean losing alot online
or whatever, but it's always worth it in the end...Stick to it. Keep in mind 
that I'm 15, so if I can do it JOO CAN DO IT TOO!

						-Peace
==SF09-Arcade Edtion Buffs/Nerfs===============================================

Buffs
+Stamina Up 800, Stun up 900
+Super is more comboable, in that it'll hit fully when used after a 
Hyakuretsukyaku.
+Sonic Boom Recovery decreased
+Hit Box on Jumping Heavy Punch changed so you can hit with it easier
+Crouching Heavy Punch startup is reduced a bit
+Hyakuretsukyaku does more damage

Nerfs
-Tanden Stream is now a projectile can now be countered by fireballs[lolwut]
-Tanden Typhoon's invinviblity took a huge hit
-Divekick got it's block stun and hit stun reduced
-Hyakuretsukyaku does less stun.
-Aerial Stretchy Punch replaced with Forward Jumping Heavy Punch

My thoughts...

I like Seth's changes for the most part, the increase in stun and stamina will
help alot, and giving his super more comboability will give him another option
with full meter other than a looong ass combo so that's nice. Several of his
normals are buffed, along with the recovery of his Sonic Booms, which is 
excellent. Beleive it or not, the stretchy Punch nerf may not be that bad 
depending on how Jumping Heavy Punch was buffed, while the nerfs on his Ultra
1 and DiveKick are pretty pointless. For the most part, Seth's changes to me 
make him an entirely new character, which is very good in my opinion. One thing
I personally would have liked to see was some comboablity on his sweep or on 
crouching Heavy Punch, it could have made him more scary up close, but hey, 
that's just me! 

==SF10-Special Thanks==========================================================

Capcom-They made the game...

DBC-[http://dbcompetitive.forumotion.com/forum.htm]<----------CHECK IT OUT!!
Helped me to get into fighters in general.

DrunkenPilot72-For introducing me to DBC

Eventhubs,Shoryuken-I appreciate what they do for the community, they make 
Street Fighter relevant.

Poongko-He's an excellent Seth player, served as inspiration.

xHIBACHIx0-Might of spelled his name wrong but he's an amazing pad Bison 
player, I was fortunate enough to run into him on PSN and be able to spar with
him regularly-look him up, and ask for a few rounds, you'll get better.

BIGPOPPAPUMP101-Good Balrog, showed me that I was a total scrub and got me 
practicing,look him up, ask for a few fights, if your good enough, he'll teach
you some good tricks for your character.