God of War: Chains of Olympus glitch & miscellaneous oddity FAQ v. 0.3 (11. 11. 2009) Written, compiled and partially found out by AKheon See the end of the file for more info. 0. Table of contents: --------------------- 0. Table of contents & version info 1. Abbreviations & glossary 2. General glitches & tricks 3. Enemy glitches 4. Level-by-level glitch walkthrough 5. Credits, legal information, contact info, etc. Version information: v. 0.3 (11. 11. 2009) + continued walkthrough + added a note about Tyrhhjy's vids (the lack thereof) File size: 59kt. v. 0.2 (25. 10. 2009) + corrected grammar mistakes and video links + added small stuff. File size: 57kt. v. 0.1 (23. 9. 2009) + first version, basically layout, basic mechanisms and selected info from here and there. A good start, though there's still a lot to do. File size: 54kt. 1. Abbreviations & glossary Abbreviations: -------------- GOW = God of War GOWII = God of War II (simple enough) CoO = Chains of Olympus QTE = Quick Time Event, the button-pressing minigames for example. IJ = Infinite Jump IAJ = Infinite Ascension Jump HJ = High Jump BoC = Blades of Chaos GoZ = Gauntlet of Zeus E = The Efreet LoD = Light of Dawn CW = Charon's Wrath TR = Tartarus Rage OT = Olympic Thunder OS = Olympic Strike NP = Normal Play BP = Bonus Play WALD = Whisk Above Ledge Danger (read more from climbing glitches) � = note to self Glossary: --------- Launch = An attack capable of (or intended for) launching enemies high up in air. Bounce = An effect in which an enemy will bounce a bit after a succesful hit. It's not nearly as high as a lift-up. Lift-up / ascension = When Kratos himself can/will rise up in air during some attacks Downed = An enemy which has fallen on its back/on the ground. Collision damage = Damage from f.e. thrown enemies. However, CoO does not feature it. Sweet spot = A place in the game area to which your enemies are blind or impaired to. These change with your enemies and their A.I. limits. Some are listed in the level- specifics further down. Weapon switch = The switch between BoC and GoZ. Real-time = Time as you know it. In-game time = How the game clock counts time. Kratos' time = Time from Kratos' point of view. 2. General glitches & tricks Made by a different developer, God of War: CoO has a wide variety of glitches never seen before in the series. About high jumps and gravity: Compared to other GoWs, gravity works different in this game. In GoW 1 and 2, the game thinks Kratos made his first 'jump' at any time his feet were off the ground. In this one the programming is more conventional, with you literally having two jumps at any time before jumping. Note that a lift-up does not count as a jump here. (there are other differences, but for now I'll leave it at this) Only one variation of a traditional 'high' jump exists in this game, and that is the air grab high jump (discoverer: GMG). Simply, launch a foe in the air, lift Kratos up as well, then air grab the enemy. After the jump you can use BOTH of your jumps to get higher and grab ledges, etc. There are a few factors at work here. Firstly, it's normally not possible to do jumps after a lift-up (or any sort of air attack.) Fortunately, there's a small loophole in air grab, allowing us to do exactly that which we weren't meant to. However, there are some circumstances in which this doesn't work - such as with enemies whose air grab doesn't allow us to jump afterwards. A listing of these might be useful to add some time in the future... Secondly, there's the small tidbit of Kratos actually gaining height when grabbing an enemy in air, at least if the enemy is higher than he is. In other GoWs the enemy is brought down to Kratos' height instead. We can conclude from this that the air grab high jump in CoO is a comparatively more powerful tool than it ever was in GoW 1, and pure height-wise better than many other high jumps of the series. If only it ended there. But it doesn't, and so we have to bear the burden of knowing a few more previously undisclosed CoO "features" which hamper down the usefulness of this trick to extreme amounts. The less bad news is that there are a very few ledges in this game. As you may remember, ledges were useful for high jumps in GoW 1 and 2 because they gave Kratos that small leeway he needed to get himself to some high platforms. Not anymore. The more bad news is that the designers made almost all walls (and event triggers as well) really friggin' high. So high, that normal high jump will not in 99% of the cases cut it. Sad, innit? Video demonstration: 1, Shinobier's vid of a successful utilization of air grab high jump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5QiG93uKQ But we have other jumps at our disposal too, so let's move on and leave the slight tinge of disappointment behind. A traditional "infinite jump" (IJ) (discoverer: LAMUERTE83, probably) can let us cross the highest of walls, unless there's a ceiling in the way. As far as infinite jumps go, it is not too bad to use. At least it's better than the GoW II infinite jump. The core of the technique is this: you do either Tartarus Rage (BoC lv. 5) or Olympic Thunder (GoZ lv. 3) in air, but cancel the move with magic (LoD or CW) before Kratos is sent down in a hurry. Then, TR or OT is done again, then it is cancelled again, etc. The timing is a bit difficult. A small thing I suggest is that after having cast the magic, you instantly move fingers in position ready for the next TR/OT and keep pressing triangle repeatedly. This is because the magic is cast on first press (it cancels TR/OT), but not the L1-move. Also, be quick to cast magic after TR/OT, because otherwise you will lose your height very quickly. At the apex of the jump, not much can be done. Air attacks generally do not move Kratos to any direction, so in order to move and make any use of your awesome height, you got to move Kratos manually by pushing the pad in some direction. Or, with GoZ you can do Olympic Strike, which throws Kratos down and forward (diagonally) for a great length - good for some situations. List of goods & bads of the magics (regarding IJ): LoD: - auto-targets if enemies are nearby (may disorient) - requires magic + is acquired a bit before the game's half-way (unless on BP) + button position is better, timing is easier CW: - auto-targets if enemies are nearby (may disorient) - requires magic if enemies are nearby (inconvenient) + does not require magic otherwise - slower to cast than LoD - is acquired way late in the game (unless on BP) List of goods & bads of your weapons (regarding IJ): BoC (Tartarus Rage): - needs lv. 5 Blades, and as such a lot of orbs for upgrading (on NP) + rises Kratos a bit higher in air than OT GoZ (Olympic Thunder): - needs lv. 3 Gauntlet, and as such a decent sum of orbs for upgrading (on NP) = a bit slower than TR (easier timing?) - does not rise as high as TR - you get it after game's half-way point (except on BP) + no-frills access to Olympic Strike Video demonstration: 1, LAMUERTE83's vid of infinite jump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtM4eK6WsqM News: (16. 8. 2009) I found a technique with which to do basic ground moves in air. A new jump came to be, one I named "Infinite Ascension Jump." Here is how to do it: 1. Switch weapons, but before the animation ends, enter CW stance... The stance is glitched, so that you can interrupt any CW cast with normal attacks. Basic attacks done in air this way result in ground-versions of those attacks for whatever reason (the basis of the IAJ). 2. You can use either BoC or GoZ ascension, but only GoZ ascension can be done quickly enough for you to gain height. Basically, you do the quick version of GoZ ascension, then cancel it using CW (which is still glitched; it will remain that way as long as your attack string continues), then cancel CW using quick GoZ ascension. 3. Repeat as long as you want. For pure jumping efficiency, I believe this jump wins over the traditional IJ. In this one Kratos moves both forward and up at the same time, which is great: allows you to see instantly where the invisible walls end, not to mention you can begin and end the jump earlier. Also, if there is anything Kratos can use as a floor while moving in air, he will, negating gravity for a short moment and allowing a huge height boost that will never happen in normal IJ. Other notes about the jump and the glitch behind it: - if done properly, the jump wastes absolutely no magic. - any non-L1 basic attack is possible in air, and different attacks can have different results. The glitch still has potential for more uses... - casting magic or blocking will end the glitch. Video demonstration: 1, Findestick's (or: "sticklefind's") demonstration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OfhzluJ_jo 2, my original vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtM4eK6WsqM More about the underlying mechanism of IAJ and related stuff: There is an alternate way to do ground moves while in air using this glitch. Almost casting loD (or E?) can result in Kratos doing the ground move as if he had cancelled out of glitched CW. With "almost casting" I'm talking about flicking the magic on quickly, without the magic actually starting. Very sharp timing is in order, and without tool-assistance, luck. Doing some basic attacks (and sometimes LoD) in air while the glitch is on can result in Kratos plummeting down to ground level insanely quick. I don't know why it happens, but it's strange alright. Using this glitch, it's possible to activate any circle events while slightly in air. I haven't found an use to this yet, since Kratos is always positioned properly an instant afterwards. Another place where this exact effect appears is during "naked Kratos" bit late in the game, when you don't have BoC: your air grab works differently during this part, and a simple combination of a block+circle in air can be followed up with the normal ground grab. What does it indicate? I'm not certain. About climbing glitches: The most devastating glitch for climbing (or 'grapple') walls is one that is not climbing-wall specific; it also has an effect at ladders and ledges. Basically, at the same time you *jump* into a ledge, ladder or a climbing wall, begin attacking (with BoC) or switch weapons. The effects vary to some extent... - At ledges: Kratos ends up standing above the ledge he was about to grab. You are stuck on the spot, though by doing random moves Kratos may slowly inch to either end of the ledge area. Magics are unuseable, but other moves work. Not that they are of any genuine use, since Kratos can only do the moves in one direction (away from the ledge) and he stays stuck no matter what. Jumping is auto-canceled and ascension pushes him inside ground momentarily. You can't make it end, so retry is mandatory after this. This variation is rare because the timing is very difficult. I've only succeeded in it twice, both times at the same place, which was the extendable platform puzzle room (before Cave of Olympus.) - At ladders: Kratos ends up slowly sliding down the ladder in a variation of the normal air idle stance. Air attacks are possible, magics unuseable (as usual). Once ground is reached, ground moves become possible too. Anything that takes him into air will makes him slowly slide down again (like at the start). You can't move to anywhere from the base of the ladder, but by pressing towards the ladder the state ends (with K. getting on the ladder like normal) so at least you won't get stuck doing this. No known use. Then, the meat of the glitch... the same thing on grapple walls. Things start out innocuously enough, with Kratos air attacking towards the wall without sliding down. Looks odd, but that's it. If the air attack combo is ended, the glitch ends too. Hum... ready to take it to another level? By switching weapons during this "air attack combo", or simply beginning the glitch by a weapon switch, you get to wield GoZ on the wall, and that's what the game never expected to happen. There are no wall attacks for GoZ, so the game opts to use its normal ground attack combos instead. Awesome! From this state, switching weapons back to BoC allows you to use its basic combos as well, but you got be quick and remember that if you go idle with BoC in your hands, the glitch ends. It's possible for you to escape the climbing wall while climbing using your new moves. This works for both horizontal and vertical walls. Outside the known borders, extremely many things can happen. It's a complex glitch with a lot of stuff dependant on where and how you do it. So pardon me if this FAQ turns messy now, because it's a lot of info I got to make some sense to. See a few vids of the glitch in action as a forewarning, then proceed if you feel brave enough. Video demonstration: 1, Sticklefind's collection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nds8SYWg2NU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTPyFA6BBSg Outside the walls, Kratos has two natural states. The first one is simply that he continues climbing. He will do this as long as you are close enough to the climbing wall or you continue using the basic climbing moves (combo them). Otherwise, Kratos is in a 'freeform' stance. He just hangs in air with arms to the sky. Instead of climbing moves, he has his air (or in some cases ground) attacks with him, and transportation becomes a lot more difficult. Freeform ends if Kratos is attacked (he will go straight into normal mode again), he finds his way back to a climbing wall (he will grab it and everything goes to normal) or his feet touch the ground (if it's a vertical wall). A complete list on how to move around in freeform is included later on in the FAQ... An interesting phenomena I will mention at this point is 'vortices'. Invisible positions in the level design at which Kratos' angle is forcibly turned (if he is climbing outside bounds, at least). I have no idea why it happens, but it allows us to reach new places. A good thing they're there. On one reported occasion, a vortex turned Kratos upside down while he was swimming! Now there is a list of techniques for getting out of climbing walls: Vertical wall escape technique #1: "whisk". Doing an ascension over the top edge of a given wall. It's the easiest to do it right below ledges, but at least one reported case of Kratos being able to escape through generic edge has been witnessed. Simply put, do an ascension towards the edge until you finally slip past it. It can take anywhere from 3 to 70 tries, but fortunately GoZ ascension is quick. In best case scenario, you are free to continue climbing outside bounds - if not instantly, then after descending a bit closer to the climbing wall by doing f.e. weapon switch. Kratos should automatically grab hold of invisible climbing wall. (Another alternative is to hope for enemies nearby, because getting hit will make Kratos climb invisibly no matter where he is.) However, should he just remain in his strange pose, standing straight right above the ledge, be wary: you are in danger of crashing the game. Especially if you at some point notice that you can't do attacks or switch weapons, do NOT press X or the game will definitely crash. Guaranteed. From hereafter, this construction which is a certain portent for game crashing danger will be referred to as Whisk Above Ledge Danger (WALD). Note: WALD corrects any angle you may've had, or so I think. Vertical wall escape technique #2: "burst" (or "breach") A charged GoZ 'square' can at some places let you burst through the wall (namesake of the trick.) Kratos ends up behind the grapple wall, usually in freeform mode. Your best hopes in this mode are vortexes or enemy attacks that might return you to true climbingness. You can follow up the initial burst with an ascension to get higher. Overall, though, as usually with freeform, your options are not too great. However, this one can also be applied to horizontal walls, in which it works with almost 100% certainty and is extremely useful. Moving in freeform: (a detailed section coming later... hopefully...) Other notes about climbing wall glitch: - dying while climbing outside the bounds crashes the game (always?) - doing angled Olympic Strike which hits the ground may crash the game - becoming petrified while climbing out of bounds ends climbing. Kratos falls down with an angle, but that angle is corrected once he hits the ground. The level-by-level section is riddled with "climb glitch assessment"-sections, in which info is divulged about the various climbing walls, their known dangers and if anything useful can be done with them. However, since vortices are not visible, all the known wall exits are not easy to find or are even random, etc. the info is by no means comprehensive. And it may never be... but that's life. About water (most stuff found out by me): In the new and improved system of GoW: CoO, water comes in boxes. That's right, the swimming glitch as we knew and loved it is no more. Exiting the cube of water will cause Kratos to stop swimming abruptly, whether on water surface or deeper. Well, at least we got that climbing glitch to compensate... And it's not like there isn't anything interesting about water in this game. Sure, emphasis of the game is easily on dry places, with water featured in about three rooms... But we got to make the best of what we got, right? Off to a humble start: attack momentum and water surface doesn't always mix perfectly. If you happen to hit water the exact moment Gauntlet's charge attack does that quick thrust forward, Kratos continues to move in water at about the same speed for up to 6 seconds time. The same can also happen by doing a roll -> rush into water, so that the rush momentum begins while Kratos is in water. Just look at him go! Great for speeding up those rare water bits of the game. Note: if you have Triton's Lance, you almost certainly dive when doing this trick. If you come back up to the surface, the super momentum ends instantly. It also ends if you leave water, even if by touching irregular collision while swimming. Then, there's water combat! There are two known 'levels' for it. First level is one in which you can do short stubs of basic attacks which self-cancel almost instantly. It can be achieved by switching weapons while touching water. An improvement to the normal attack-less swimming state, but not a very impressive display as a whole. Fortunately in 'level two' you can actually finish the basic square attack for more style points. With GoZ you also get amusing momentum by doing this! Level two is achieved by two ways: 1, roll -> weapon switch just as you hit water. 2, CW glitch, then combo into the water. Why does it work like this? I'm not sure. It's as if the two mechanisms are interrelated somehow, and if that's the case, there exists a possibility of a 'third level'. Note: water combat also ends if you leave water. A rarity I once encountered was 'swimming upside down', a glitch that is most likely a brethren of the upsidedown/slanted climbing glitch. Basically, I was swimming outside collision at Cave of Olympus, completely minding my own business, when all of a sudden a 'current' turned Kratos upside down. The controls went reverse and jumping (when at surface-level) caused Kratos to jump downwards (always returning to the surface afterwards). This state ended as I examined and opened an underwater chest. I would love to try this mode again someday, since it is so mysterious as of today... Video demonstrations: 1, water combat (both stages): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCPUxwipl-k 2, water speed boost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06bi6bwftjs 3, swimming upsidedown: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRt7DLfLFe4 About Gorgon Eye/Phoenix Feather glitches: The message is programmed differently from other GoWs. The two main differences are 1, you can't enter start/select-menu while it is on and 2, correctly timed start/select press right as it appears is a gateway to a few cool glitches. First, a note about a certain select-menu trick which enables you to do the first GE/PF glitch I am going to mention. By pressing 'X' and 'select' at the same time while on the restart/quit prompt, you can reset or quit the game while the game keeps running in the background. (technically, you can do this on the Options prompt as well, but the game crashes, so don't.) So, if you activate a GE/PF message right before game retries from the last checkpoint doing this trick... After the retry, game screen is frozen and Kratos can't be controlled. You can hear audio and music in the background as normal, and you can enter menus. After exiting a menu, the game continues as normal, no harm done. I haven't found an use for this yet... If you quit the game instead of retrying, the main menu becomes glitched with all background graphics missing and music absent. Loading a new game is possible, but choosing New Game (and going through with it) leads to a game crash. Next on the menu (yes, a bad pun): By entering select/start menu the instant the GE/PF message (indicating you got one) appears, Kratos regains the ability to move in the background. The message remains overlaid on top of everything, and ends instantly you press X. Entering start/select again while the message is on is not possible. If you become checkpointed in this state and retry (by dying, for example), the message disappears and the eye/feather is effectively completely purged from existence. This one actually has an use, since you can take an upgrade with you and use it at own discretion, even in the middle of fights. At least one NP sequence break becomes possible with a health upgrade (the second Marathon fog). What else... ah, for amusement and endless discord, the Big Status Bar Sword becomes reality. Big Status Bar effectively means that the fat status bar graphic which replaces the normal during upgrades... you guessed it, stays there forever. This is done by dying during the upgrade sequence. This version of the status bar remains on top of everything (except menus) - it is on even during in-game cutscenes and on GE/PF messages you might pick up during this time. A bad part, other than the overwhelming visual awkwardness of the whole thing, is that there is no known way to get BSB without also getting the Upgrade Audio Loop from Hell to play in the background until you shut down the game. It's loud and will get on your nerves quite quick. Subsequent deaths during upgrading only add to the amount of sound loops in the background, which is as horrible as it is amusing. Just for the heck of it, I once did this glitch 71 times during one evening. It sounded almost tolerable, since with enough overlapping the volume decreased and the sound becomes almost as if 'muffled'. The game began to lag a bit at the place where I did the glitch (Marathon's first fog), but on New Game I didn't notice particular effects or errors the barrage of sound might've created. (there is an alternate way to do the aforementioned glitch: by upgrading while a message indicating the current area appears. Easy to do f.e. at Groves of Persephone. The upgrading sword graphic is momentarily replaced with the locale message, and entering menus becomes possible. After that it's just a matter of "retrying from the last checkpoint"... voila.) As you know, after collecting all eyes/feathers, the remaining eye/feather chests become red orb (or mix) chests. However, since you can overlap messages using the GE/PF trick, it becomes theoretically possible to collect more than 15 eyes/feathers during the game. First you take one GE/PF message with you, then go open another chest of the same type. You will begin normal upgrade sequence, but afterwards you have access to one more message: the one that is still in the background obediently. I've tried what happens doing this, but only once. It seems the game might not really do anything with the last message, or at least, the additional eye/feather. I visited the start-menu, but saw no signs of anything left over. It looked just like it always looked after getting 'em all. More about the select-menu trick which was mentioned passingly earlier: To recap, it was this: X + select on a restart/yes, quit/yes or options-prompt allows you to restart or quit the game while it is still running in the back- ground (or crash the game in case of the last one.) The glitch works like it does because of the timed fade-out effect of each of the mentioned menu prompts. The game has to wait until the end of the fade-out before continuing, and during that time some mayhem can be done which wouldn't be possible otherwise. Here's a list of known effects: - 'restart' right before a GE/PF message appears on the screen. Screen freeze, more info is written at GE/PF message glitches. - 'quit' right before a GE/PF message appears on the screen. Main menu is graphic-less, new game doesn't work. More info is at GE/PF message glitches. - 'restart/quit' right before FMV. The FMV plays out before retry/quit resolves. no other known effects... - 'quit' right before a narrated cutscene activates. The music & audio of the cutscene plays in the main menu (and maybe more, e.g. lag?) About the last one. The normal main menu music begins playing once the cutscene music ends, except if you've begun a new game and the cutscene of Kratos' eye being zoomed in is on, in which case the zoom-in cutscene music begins playing instead (lagging). All noticeable effects disappear as intro FMV kicks in. And then, the alternatives which don't work: - it seems impossible to reach 'you are dead'-message with this glitch. The fade-out period is just too short. - I haven't noticed any interesting side-effects with doing moves, hitting water or climbing wall, etc. while the game is restarted or quit. And last but most strange... - 'options' at any time: game crashes after fade-out. The strangest thing about doing the trick with options-prompt is that in special circumstances, there is a way to extend the period of time before game crash. Instead of the game crashing at fade-out, it crashes at fade-in (cue for the actual options-menu to appear). Also, you have a chance of entering menus before the game crashes, which may open up windows to unexpected glitches... too bad the testing is really annoying, with the game crashing each time you mess up with the timing (and half the time regardless.) My current method of testing is this: I load Temple Courtyard, and roll towards the cutscene while doing the trick with 'quit'. As expected the cutscene audio begins playing in the main menu. Then I re-load the same save, and again roll towards the cutscene, but this time doing the trick with 'options'. If things went ok, the screen first fade-outs, then fade-ins. If I didn't manage to enter a menu before the fade-in ends, game crashes. More info is likely to be divulged once there is something worthwhile to tell. About checkpoints: Unlike in the other GoWs, they are loose. They don't capture Kratos' exact location, instead opting to return him either "nearby" or to a fixed location. Also, some acquired items/objectives carry over a retry in a way that does not seem logical... This means that checkpoint abuse is possible at places, f.e. where restoring from checkpoint takes you *closer* to your next goal or allows you to skip backtracking. Notable instances of this are listed in the level-by-levels, which are some pages down from here. Random sound loop problems: Many, many events and or moves which have a looping sound as their effect can resolve so that the loop stays playing in the background. This is pretty annoying, and happens relatively often too. Here's a list of all the things which I've witnessed to hear leave a loop behind: + Gorgon freeze beam + climbing downwards + one of Gauntlet's charged attacks + upgrading (a specialty... read more in GE/PF message glitch) Object physics oddities: If you set an object on a pushable button somewhat off the center, it's possible that the button keeps moving up and down (and so does the thing it manipulates). Video demonstration: 1, BaraDani's vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJIIZvkdy There's an oddity possible at least in the first area with a corpse in the game: if you put the corpse right next to a door, lift the door up, then lower the door again, the door will be left slightly ajar - even if you pick up the corpse afterwards (credits to Sticklefind.) Video demonstration: 1, sticklefind's vid (see #4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waDDiE3CVcI Corpse glitches: See above for the corpse + door glitch. If you die because of something causing insta-death (in special conditions?) while carrying a corpse (not that many possibilities available in this game...), the game will keep thinking that Kratos is carrying that corpse even after you retry. The corpse can be seen bopping in air and it can't be interacted with. At least K. himself functions like normal... (credits to Sticklefind) Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKyB9glpIh8 Petrifying glitches: + if you are blocking or switch weapons while Kratos gets stonefrozen, he is able to escape his uncomfortable situation by simply pressing circle. + Same is true for air petrify, which you normally really can't escape by hook or crook. You can do the escaping part of the trick with either circle or by doing another weapon switch. Instant results. + during air petrify, Kratos' weapons are (strangely) visible and unpetrified. + if Kratos breaks out of petrified state the instant he is crashed, the game will not consider him dead, although his physical body completely disappears. Using this glitch you can truly see how dull place the world of GoW is without Kratos... Video demonstration: 1, my vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyUVlH8Sx0A + if Kratos gets petrified while he is charging the ground versions of Olympic Strike or Olympic Thunder, the petrified statue will have sparkles flying out of it. + some more are listed at at enemy-specifics (look for 'gorgon') Unsorted items and mysteries: If you go to select menu the instant Kratos hits insta-death surface and then choose 'restart', the game will restart but with Kratos dying right after gameplay begins. Borrowed time, literally. I don't know if quitting in the same scenario (or using the menu exit trick) would yield more interesting results... Now, random CoO glitch vids found from Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV43oDu4Fx0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oVt_gdrMRg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0CazXr46T0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqTyJj6KgMo Weapons and magic: ------------------ (weapons-section written eventually) General info about magic: Gone is the 4-way magic menu of GoW 1 and 2. Instead of it all, magic is done by keeping R1 held down and pressing either square, triangle or circle. Unlike in other GoWs, magic's damage is affected by both costume and difficulty choice. In other words, it is affected by "power%". The Efreet ---------- Cost: 20 mp. Destroys armor. Causes medium-sizer or smaller enemies to 'burn' and scream upon death - it's basically an unique effect of the spell. You also get bonus EXP from doing this. � During the entire Efreet casting, Kratos is invincible to damage from attacks. Area damage like the fog at Marathon will still harm/kill him. "Having the 'mash' push foes out of the blast radius was a shitty design choice." - GMG It's possible for the air Efreet animation to get "stuck" in air a bit before resolving. It's likely because of something below Kratos won't let him descend properly. Doing Efreet at ceiling-level causes Kratos to slightly sink in the ceiling (before coming crashing down). Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be useful in getting through ceilings or anything. If you retry during a high-level Efreet, the screen black-out effect plays for a short while after game continues. The effect can also carry to the main menu, if you choose to quit the game instead. Light of Dawn ------------- Cost: 10 mp. Has the longest range of all Kratos' attacks in this game. Destroys armor. LoD bolts can't be deflected. One bolt can hit multiple enemies, even if uncharged. "Apparently holding the spell out will pause the combo meter." - GMG An important asset for doing the traditional infinite jump technique. Charon's Wrath -------------- Cost: 33 mp. Destroys armor. Hits multiple times. The spell has a decent range. When cast, it creates a static effect over targeted enemy. All enemies that are inside the static effect's invisible range will get infected with an "acidic cloud" that follows them wherever they may move, hitting them repeatedly and possibly keeping them stunlocked. The effect lasts about 3-4 seconds total. - If an affected enemy dies, the green graphical cloud may remain in air and burn away at nothingness until the effect's time runs out. - Some grabs can move the affected enemy away from inside the cloud. - If the cloud follows an enemy into a grab, it continues getting damaged all the same. An enemy never dies during the grab, even if its HP goes negative. Instead, the grab is finished, and the enemy dies afterwards. Additional casts on a single target have a limited effect. This is because CW has a limited amount of hits/damage it can do in a given time. Re-cast only resets the length of the effect, but otherwise nothing is gained. As implied, enemies can be stunlocked with this magic. Even Persian King and possible some other bosses too. If cast with no enemies around, no magic is lost. However, even this kind of freebie cast is not possible if you have less than 33 mp. The magic has a loophole in it which enables CW glitch in all its forms. There's more about it in the section of infinite jumping. 3. Enemy glitches Armored Cyclopos Armored Minotaur Athenian Soldier Banshee Like with petrifying, switching weapons while Kratos gets hit by the shriek enables you to escape it with just normal attacks, which is extremely quick. Cursed Harpling Cursed Harpy Cyclops Dark Satyr Dark Satyr Grenadier Death Knight Fire Guard Fire Sentinel Gorgon "NOTE: Launch to OH to Launch works well but it makes the game partial to freezing" - GMG � Unlike in other games, the freeze beam affects no one but Kratos. Really unfair! The freeze beams of two gorgons can overlap, increasing the rate Kratos freezes. The sound loop of freeze beam can somehow stay playing even after the attack has ended. I'm not sure what causes it, probably grabs at a strange time or similar. Read more at "petrify glitches", which are listed somewhere before this section. Gorgon Queen Harpling Harpy Hoplite Hoplite (wall) Hoplite Archer Hyperion Guard Innocent Souls Minotaur Morpheus Beast Persian Archer Persian Warrior Satyr Satyr Grenadier Shade Shade Arche Shielded Hoplite Sphinx Basilisk (tower) Basilisk (bridge 1) Basilisk (bridge 2) Basilisk (final breath) Persian King Charon (deck) Charon (3x pyre) Charon (half body) Persephone (ground) Persephone (pillars) 4. Level-by-level glitch walkthrough It is still a work-in-progress, with many areas and tricks which are absent. Also, the video coverage is rather thin as of yet. Start of the game: Infinite red orbs (BP): yes, infinite red orbs at the very first scene of the game. Unfortunately it's only possible during BP, where you can't even use them. Basically, start Light of Dawning the enemies all around you the first instant you can after the first cutscene of the game. The orbs left in air before you are checkpointed are always given to Kratos while retrying, but the orb count does not revert back to what it used to be. This means that just by retrying over and over again you can get (theoretically) infinite orbs. (you get about 30-60 orbs per retry, which is not bad) Speed strategy: it's possible to activate the crossbow without bothering with any of the enemies. May require some luck. Wasted glitch potential: this room has a ceiling, so you can't IJ out. The second room of the game has a ceiling too. "The Gates of Attica" - save point Sequence break (BP): it's possible to infinite jump over the door you'd normally have to tumble down with the battering ram. Sequence break (BP): infinite jump over the wall before the cutscene with archers. Swim outside walls to the other end, and jump past the door which you would normally have to open with the crank. Two skips with one IJ! Sequence break (BP): IJ to the upper level instead of using the ladder. It may be slightly faster because you skip a cutscene (among other things). Speed strategy: the balancing beam should be jumped through. This way you get by a lot faster in addition to skipping the otherwise mandatory knockdown (which is due to a fireball thrown by Basilisk). Also, if you jump a bit to the north or south at the very end, it's possible to zip through some strange collision (saving an itsy bitsy amount of time). Sequence break (BP): start doing IAJ before the door that leads to Persian King. Keep at it until you get over the wall, then Olympic Strike yourself in the next area. Hopefully the cutscene trigger will stop Kratos from going too far. If you land inside collision, it's possible for you to jump inside walls to the next area (past the liftable door) quite easily. Tyrhhjy noted that anything below the elevator area is difficult (or impossible) to access because of loading triggers, but this note came before IAJ was found (so... who knows.) Video demonstration: 1, my vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PhGXqbS4Q0 Regen magic (BP): I believe that it's possible to gain regen magic at the Efreet tutorial by jumping over the exit. Good for other costumes than Spud of War on BP. (however, not 100% certain) "Fallen Stronghold" - save point Wasted glitch potential: crossbow & Basilisk room has a ceiling. Speed strategy: in the room with crossbow and Basilisk, it's possible to turn and shoot the bow without kicking down the ladders. Just defeat the closest soldiers and then do it. Event glitch: according to Stickle, if Kratos is interrupted with an attack right as he shoots the bow towards the Basilisk, the cutscene may become skipped and the Basilisk, while never leaving, just stops functioning strangely. Enemies also cease to spawn, which means you are free to leave to the next place... Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid (see part #11) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waDDiE3CVcI Wasted glitch potential: the cyclops fight room has a ceiling, and so has the corridor before it. "Siege of Attica" - save point Other (BP): after riding the elevator, if you IJ your way back up, the elevator comes with you too. If you retry from checkpoint after this, the elevator starts from up top and you can actually roll inside it (for a graphical effect mainly.) Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid (see part #1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waDDiE3CVcI "The Basilisk Strikes" - save point Wasted potential: this area has a ceiling. Infinite orbs: while Basilisk is on the roof breathing fire, its hand/the house can be attacked for free, long combos without any danger. "Cliffs of Marathon" - save point Graphical glitch: upon retry, a strange graphical effect may flash on the screen. (�) Sequence break (BP): by jumping over the fence behind the save point, the house (basically a cutscene and a short fight) becomes skipped. Sequence break: Tyrhhjy reports that it's possible to skip the cutscene at the first house. Here is exact quote: "Now I know how it works. You have to run a bit then roll. Nice easy skip." Video demonstration: 1, his vid (at the very end): N/A at the moment Sequence break: you can skip the second fog trek and any related events with GE message glitch. Take the upgrade message with you, and activate it right as you enter the fog. Your health will drain to almost zero, but then it will replenish again... enough for you to make it to the second safe area, from which you can pick up a health chest (and make it the rest of the path). Note: might not work as well on harder difficulties, where health chests replenish less and less. Note 2: on BP it's possible to just roll into the second safe area. Video demonstration: 1, my vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmPzDXks1pE Climb glitch assessment: wall before steed shrine Can't breach it, but a whisk is possible. The plane you're stuck on won't get you anywhere, unfortunately. I don't know if vortices are nearby. "The Steed Shrine" - save point Other: the O-prompt of the ground text which is at the middle of the room tends to stick with you randomly. Basically, the O-prompt stays at the bottom of the screen no matter where you go, though you can't do anything with it. Other prompts that appear in the same spot of the screen overwrite it, sadly. Climb glitch assessment: wall after steed shrine #1 Haven't been able to burst through it, and whisking brings about variable results. Mainly, you just get stuck slightly behind the wall in freeform mode. Note: this wall may have different properties during "Release of the Steeds". Climb glitch assessment: wall after steed shrine #2 Bursting is possible after the chasm. Ascension leads you to a nice vortex which turns Kratos to a direction which doesn't seem to be useable. Whisk? Not sure of. "Temple of Helios" - save point Sequence break (NP?): � "HJ x3 (at least) over gate using a Satyr Grenadier Kill the one guarding the lever then proceed to pull down the door." - GMG Sequence break (BP): you can defeat the last Satyr with LoD/CW and can thus skip running through the area, etc. "Grand Hallway" - save point Sequence break: you can jump over the door that requires a 'sigil' to open in the room from which you get the Sun Shield (gratz Tyrhhjy). Video demonstration: 1, Tyrhhjy's vid (see second part): N/A at the moment Wasted potential: it's possible to reach the spiral stairway from out of bounds by doing infinite jump from the balcony that is above the room from which you get the Sun Shield, but the areas beyond are not loaded. "The Throne Room" - save point You can't backtrack because there is nothing beyond the fog-laden areas. Wasted potential: it's possible to skip the exposition cutscene at the top of the stairs by jumping over it, but the game never realizes the next fight ends because you don't kill the two archers which spawn only during the very same cutscene, and thus you can't get to the lower level (except maybe jumping.) Sequence break (BP): speaking of jumping, you can skip the fight at the top of the stairs by jumping over the wall and landing inside the stairway below. Video demonstration: 1, Tyrhhjy's vid N/A at the moment Sequence break (BP): you can skip the long puzzle before Cave of Olympus by doing an infinite jump over the door that closes behind you. You fall right into the lower area, where you would normally get to only after solving the puzzle. (credits to Tyrhhjy) "The Caves of Olympus" - save point Checkpoint abuse: it's possible to skip the introduction cutscene of the Caves by restarting after having entered the portal. (gratz Tyrhhjy) � Speed strategy: doing a roll -> rush into water will give you a huge speed boost for crossing over the water. Sequence break (BP): it's possible to just infinite jump to the next place without bothering with the water sections. Alternatively, it's possible to go through the wall using climbing wall glitch, and get straight inside the room that has the switch you need to activate next. Video demonstration: 1, skipping Caves with IAJ (stickle's vid, as is the next) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHZbv9usC_U 2, skipping Caves with climbing glitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRNKJ-KTT8M Checkpoint abuse: the Triton's Lance is carried over a retry, which means that once you pick it up, you can retry for a quick return to the beginning (with the Lance staying in your pocket). Wasted potential: you can jump out of the minotaur fight, but the needed crank won't be there. Also, the next place isn't loaded until you visit the short stretch between the fight barrier and the chasm (so, an effective skip would require two jumps to work... bleh) Wasted potential: that high invisible collision will not disappear until you've turned the crank in the required way and seen the cutscene. Collision "flaw": you can jump to where Eos rests, but the floor isn't solid and you just fall down. Wasted potential: the flowing stream does not count as water. Speed strategy: roll -> rush into the water, or if on BP, just a charged GoZ punch is enough. You will speed through the short water stretch. "Guardians of the Fire" - save point Wasted potential: you can reach the corridor behind the "Primordial Fire" event by doing IJ, but the next area is not loaded until you finish the event. If you shoot the statues with magics (on BP), the screen will shake and hits are registered. However, nothing seems to happen... Do they have a HP? Can you break them this way at all? Collision flaw: after returning to the main part of the cave, some of the collision has changed. You can very easily reach out of bounds by going to the balcony from where you got the Lance, and just do attacks towards the climbing wall. I learned of this from a Youtube vid whose owner I'm not sure of. "Return to Helios" - save point "Sequence break": it's possible to return to Helios' Temple out of bounds by (for example) swimming there. You skip using the key thing once, and also, the flame graphical effects are not there (though collision is). I saw this in a Youtube vid which I haven't been able to re-locate since... Sequence break (BP): you can infinite jump the whole of the elevator shaft. Speed strategy: at the top of the elevator ride, you can jump to the correct floor and continue on your way even before the elevator is fully up. "Temple Courtyard" - save point Sequence break (BP): it's possible to do a complex infinite jump sequence to get straight to the lower area without bothering with the puzzle. Gratz Tyrhhjy. Note: you may have to activate the sigil on the ground before the next area is accessible (or in other words: loaded.) Video demonstration: 1, his vid: N/A at the moment 2, stickle's vid, in which AHJ is used: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfXoHKw-us "Release of the Steeds" - save point "Falls of Oceanum" - save point Climb glitch assessment: the first climbing wall around Jeez, where to start? So many odd things are possible here, including creating a ceiling grapple/feet on ground mix state. There's strange air 'collision' around, moving Kratos' horizontal height as you move about in horizontal grapple mode. It's very easy to just get yourself killed by doing Olympic Strike to a wrong direction. A small skip is also possible, by escaping horizontal grapple and reaching the next (vertical) grapple at a correct height. Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpJZaWVaBvY Sequence break: it's possible to skip a fight after the collapsing staircase by rolling quicky to the next place. Kratos is able to proceed without being hindered by the fight and its red barrier. Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHYFgX7TXgc Climb glitch assessment: horizontal wall after gorgon fight Climbing out of bounds is possible by whisking yourself over the upper edge with ascension. Unfortunately the plane you're stuck on doesn't lead to anywhere in particular. I don't know if there are vortices nearby anywhere. Checkpoint oddity: for some reason, I once got the local gorgon to spawn before I had even broken the wall from in front of her. Climb glitch assessment: waterfall grapple You can breach it easily by doing those sweet charged attacks, but I haven't found a way to utilize this yet. "Ruins of Asphodel" - save point Climb glitch assessment: first wall after save point No apparent breaches. Fling is possible, but takes patience. It's actually possible to skip past the green double doors with it, allowing a skip! Sequence break (BP): it's possible to just infinite jump over the double doors. Wasted potential: you can jump over the wall to the area you'd normally only get after escaping from Tartarus, but nothing special happens there. Sequence break (BP): it's possible to just infinite jump over the fight barrier. "The Dock of Charon" - save point It doesn't matter whether you ring the bell or (on BP) pass through the gate. If it's your first time, the same thing always happens: you lose. This is because you can't break the necessary pillars even if you have GoZ, and you also can't avoid his insta-kill attack since the ship has a low invisible ceiling. Speed strategy: Tyrhhjy suggested this speed method for first Charon fight: "The trick is to go out of the level's boundary so that while you are in the next area you will die instantly. Thus saving time since you can't win anyway." Video demonstration: 1, Tyrhhjy's vid N/A at the moment "Imprisonment" - save point Sequence break (BP): while it's not possible to crash the Hades statue early even if you got GoZ, it IS possible to jump over it to reach the next place quickly. Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZkkjVLjAg "Temple of the Gods" - save point Wasted potential: during the first time around, you can't break the Hades statue (even if you had the Gauntlet already). However... Sequence break (BP): you can jump over the Hades statue to skip the whole of Temple of Zeus. Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZkkjVLjAg Sequence break: using air grab high jump, you can skip a part of the Cryptkeeper's key ordeal. Video demonstration: 1, shinobier's vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5QiG93uKQ Wasted potential: once you create the bridge which leads to Temple of Zeus, the corpse can't be picked up any longer. However, see below for a related vid... "Temple of Zeus" - save point Other: Now, some unique things to do with corpses are possible. Video demonstration: 1, Stickle's vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKyB9glpIh8 2. Stickle's second vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbxsNNFdB5Q "Jails of Tartarus" - save point Camera glitch: once, when I proceeded forward after having just loaded the save, the camera didn't follow me but instead aimed through the floor to the gray depths of empty level design. I had to leave the other way (via climbing wall) to get to the large area with camera still focused on Kratos. Sequence break (BP): it's possible to skip activities regarding the lowering of both of the pendulums by doing AHJ 'til you reach the next place. Video demonstration: 1, Stickle's vid (see section #2): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZkkjVLjAg Climb glitch assessment: wall on the left side of the area No breaching is possible, and whisking seems to lead to danger (WALD). So never mind this wall. Climb glitch assessment: wall(s) on the right side of the area My testing was joyless, with no possible breaches or whisks found. However, there is a small suspicion it is possible nonetheless. If things worked out, maybe you could do climb glitch to reach the next area? Checkpoint abuse: you can skip the cutscene which introduces titans by just retrying from the last checkpoint. Climb glitch assessment: climbing wall with a chasm and two tops The left top is mainly Whisk Above Ledge Danger. However, below the left top you can burst through wall with charged square hit and ascension your way up. Below this spot there is a nice vortex you can't miss. If you burst through the wall too low and try to Ascension, the game crashes seemingly quite often, so that might be good to avoid. Another spot from where you can reach a vortex is right next to the chasm (left side). Burst through wall and ascend a bit, then descend a bit. Some quite imaginative angles are possible with this one. (gratz Stickle) Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid (the technique is shown at 00:40) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTPyFA6BBSg The right top doesn't seem to have WALD - on the contrary, you are able to continue climbing like normal. Too bad the plane doesn't lead anywhere. Checkpoint abuse: "Once the Minotaur is killed the barrier drops. When it goes down, restart and quickly grab the nearest crank and turn it all the way (extends the chain). *no Archers need be fought*" - GMG Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid (see section #3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ZkkjVLjAg "Shackles of Hyperion" - save point Sequence break: you can skip the fight with archers and co. and pulling two switches by utilizing the wall climbing glitch. At the ceiling grapple, you can get outside collision with just one charged Gauntlet hit, after which you are free to get around the chains without problems. You can also R1 drop Kratos inside collision this way, but getting to the next area is fruitless because most of it is unloaded. Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64WVYHl7Y78 Speed strategy (BP): before the climbing wall that leads to Chains of Atlas, attack the climbing foes from far away with CW before hopping onto the wall. This is because you can't fight them off very well on the downward slope, and every single of them is likely to do that slow grab attack on you. "Chains of Atlas" - save point Checkpoint abuse: rotate the first wheel about 1.25 times, then jump towards the next wheel with a double-jump and follow it up with Olympic Strike. If all goes well, you activate the next checkpoint way ahead of its time and get to continue from the second wheel (despite not actually reaching it and having just died). Speed mystery (BP): you can do IAJ to cross the long chasms instead of using the wheels, but I'm not sure if it's actually faster or not. Other: you can jump over the chain event and walk to the cutscene (which leads you out of this place) on invisible floor. Tried out if you could save time doing this... you can't. But it looks neat. Mystery: it's possible that the fight in the saw room will not end properly if you had skipped the respective fight in the same room earlier. At least in my save, the red barriers didn't disappear. ... "Chasing Calliope" - save point Battle exploit: if you carefully approach the fight with minotaur, it's possible for Kratos to be left outside the red barrier as the fight starts. This means that you can safely win your foes from outside the fight arena! (credits to Sticklefind) Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid (see part #7) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waDDiE3CVcI "Groves of Persephone" - save point During this part, Kratos... changes. Not only does his appearance and stances change, the properties of the few moves he has left change too. He can only do run/walk, roll, grab, block and jump. The buffer from roll to grab does not work and the roll can be interrupted at any time with jump (in effect making it easy to do "momentum jump"). A grab that is done from block is but a short twitch (it auto-cancels?). If you do a quick block+grab in air, you can follow it up with a normal ground grab (fun in the next section). His health bar is replaced by a new one. How can I tell it's a new one? Simple: if you upgrade your health during this time using the GE/PF message glitch, the upgrade will not show (until later, when you get your actual health bar back). I haven't tested what will happen if you upgrade your magic at this time, but I have a feeling that it's the same as with the health bar. After winning the next mini-game, Calliope can be seen on the ground as a small blot. She has protective collision all over, and can't be interacted with. Other: it's possible to get stuck in the green fields because of some strange cutscene malfunction. While testing out GE/PF message effects at this area, I somehow (for unrelated reasons?) caused one of the "Kratos getting empowered" cutscenes to cut short. It managed to only just begin when it cut out, you could hear Gaia's respective narration in the background but Kratos was completely free to move around. Consequently, no matter what amount of pure souls I slaughtered, Kratos never re-lost his innocence. (in other words: the game didn't progress, I didn't get most of my magics back.) Video demonstration: 1, my vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etu_1ico7xY You will lose the state of "naked Kratos" as soon as you've killed four of those souls and regain BoC. "Fields of Elysium" - save point Wasted potential: it's possible to jump over the transition FMV when moving towards Persephone, but she is but a cardboard cut-out and can't be interacted with. Video demonstration: 1, stickle's vid (see part #8) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waDDiE3CVcI ... 5. Credits, legal information, contact info, etc. ------------------------------------------------- ==================================== Copyright � 2009 Hannu Ratilainen All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License. http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html#SEC1 All trademarks and copyrights contained in this document are owned by their respective trademark and copyright holders. Newest version of this guide will always be at GameFAQs, so check there if you're not certain. ==================================== For contacting, message my Youtube-account. For E-mail, go check out my GameFAQs contribution recognition, it is listed there! Home site of the author: http://akheon.wordpress.com/ Additional thanks (and links): ------------------------------ GMG - some info + being the moral backbone of the GoW fanbase http://www.youtube.com/user/bigvee Findlestick - read my FAQs too attentively and never looked the same again (note: "Sticklefind" is a clever alias) http://www.youtube.com/user/sticklefind Tyrhhjy - a finder of things (note: most vids disappeared at the beginning of Nov. 09) http://www.youtube.com/user/tyrhhjy FIN