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how to defeat clair the blackthorn gym leader

I have tried beaten her with my Pokemon I got with me,i got rid of the two of them,its just kingdra he's hard to beat because of it's hyrdo pump and dragon pulse,those two attacks always gets my Pokemon down and than I lose the battle,so how can I defeat her with my Pokemon I got with me,i got typhlosion,jynx,flaaffy,quagsire,graveler,pidgeotto.can you please help me and tell how to defeat her.

Date of Question: Apr 5th 2010 | Question ID: 149784
 

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Kingdra is Water/Dragon type, so it's only weakness is Dragon. Most attacks are normal effective. Best way to defeat Kingdra is to use a status move such as Thunder Wave, Hypnosis, Confuse Ray, and a few others. Your Jynx and Flaffy can learn the aforementioned attacks, so train them a bit more. Good luck.
 

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im just saying that kingdra is afeced by eletric and dragon
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John:
But im pretty sure thunder wave is only a paralyzing move? correct me if im wrong
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To defeat Kingdra, i suggest using an electric type pokemon. I defeated it with my lvl 40 magneton, who i taught the move Thunder. Uou can purchase Thunder in the Goldenrod Department store
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im having trouble too so what im doing is stacking my team with ice and dragon types also trade with someone who has dimond or pearl to get snover and sneasle
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hey there is another typ of paralyzing move but i don't know what it is just yet.
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I agree with Glaceon. Also I would try to catch the Legendary in your game, since you asked here I assume it's lugia. That will greatly add to your team's overall abilities because the Aeroblast attack, Lugia's signature, is strong and has a high critcal hit ratio. Training would help a lot too, as you have a few Pokemon who seem to be under leveled for this part of the game. I would think your Pidgeotto and Flaffy should evolve to their fully evolved forms of Pidgeot and Ampharos. That will help you as well
 

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tch, you get lugia after you beat clair
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yes but you can only get lugia after you defeat claire and this is what she cant do
 

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LOL i killed both legendarys.......Is That Bad?
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Try inflicting a status effect on her Kingdra. If anything use a dragon type move if you have one.
 

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after freezing it it automatically thawed
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Judging by the fact you still have flaffy, and pidgeotto you need to get your levels up. That is probably the best way to beat her with your team. I mean waaaayyy up. Try combining paralysis and confusion together against kingdra making the 'parafusion' which is difficult to break through. All things considered, she is a hard trainer. Sometimes you need some luck, like I did. I killed her kingdra one hit KO with kadabra's psychic on a critical hit while he was my last Pokemon and only had 8hp left. So don't give up!
 

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Just try to raise faaffly and in flict poison on kingdra and have a high level devenseive(ex. Koffing, weasing, milktank, snorelax, stealix) Pokemon sit and wait for it to faint.
 

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you can also try a feraligator that's how i beat her using crunch 2x that killed her. i was going to save when my ds died.
i freaked out so i have to battle again when i charge my ds
 

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im having trouble beating her as well the team that i have is... An Onix at Lv 32 with Strength Rock Polish Rock Tomb Rock Smash a Lv32 Delibird with Present and Avalanche a Vulpix with Confuse Ray Payback Flamethrower Wil-O-Wisp a Pidgeotto at lv30 with LFy Twister Quick Attack Roost a Togetic at lv 31 with Fly Wish Extresensory Metronome and a Feraligatr at lv33 with Ice Fang Crunch Surf and Whirlpool(so far hes may best shot).
 

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I have an Onix Lv 36, Pollywhirl Lv 27, Typhlosion Lv 44, Voltorb Lv 22, Rattacate Lv 36 and a Red Garadose Lv 38 and I lost 45 times to Clair please help me
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I would definitely take out your weaker pokemon. Or go to Mr.Pokemon with the red scale, and use the exp share on the lower leveled pokemon in your group! Then you just grind and grind until you are around the 36 range, you definitely need to evolve your Onix and Voltorb. Though I do suggest maybe taking in an ampharos. I have stuck with my same team the entire game, and I plan on facing Claire with my current team (Though I have Eevee, and Im grinding him right now, so I can evolve him into Vaporeon! Vaporeon can learn Ice type move, as well as some moves that can inflict status conditions.) SO I think you should also maybe go to Bill and grab his Eevee! But this is all up to you
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ok.ok. I need help as well. i mean i had already beaten the game twice, but i cant remember how i beat her!
My Team:(so far and also in order)
Typhlosion lv. 42 male
Moves: Blast Burn, Lava plume flame wheel and flamethrower.

Ampharos lv 37 female
Moves: Charge Beam, rock smash, thunderpunch, charge.

Gyarados(shiny) lv 33 female
Moves: whirlpool(i have my reasons), dragon rage, surf and ice fang.

Crobat lv 32 female
Moves: Fly, bite, wing attack, confuse ray.

Eevee lv 29 male
Moves: sand-attack, growl, quick attack and bite.

im leaving a space open for a suggestion pokemon and what moves i should teach meh Eevee o-o
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ok.ok. I need help as well. i mean i had already beaten the game twice, but i cant remember how i beat her!
My Team:(so far and also in order)
Typhlosion lv. 42 male
Moves: Blast Burn, Lava plume flame wheel and flamethrower.

Ampharos lv 37 female
Moves: Charge Beam, rock smash, thunderpunch, charge.

Gyarados(shiny) lv 33 female
Moves: whirlpool(i have my reasons), dragon rage, surf and ice fang.

Crobat lv 32 female
Moves: Fly, bite, wing attack, confuse ray.

Eevee lv 29 male
Moves: sand-attack, growl, quick attack and bite.

im leaving a space open for a suggestion pokemon and what moves i should teach meh Eevee o-o
 

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Take your Ampharos to Lv 39 and your Gyrados to 35.
evolve your Eevee into either Vaporeon or Jolteon and make it lv 35-37

Choose some good moves for all of them(few status moves suggested) and youll beat her easily.
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I failed two times, I've got one ultimate power and all the others are all normal, so how can I defeat the gym leader. My ultiamte power is fireblast. My best guy has flamethrower, ember, and flamewheel.
 

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the ultimate move for fire type is Blast Burn. You don't get ultimate moves through TMs
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blast burn would also do it
 

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@ nitemare007 how can u get lugia/ho-oh if you havmt defeated 8 gym leaders and kimnono girls? huh...
 

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You cant use blizzard to beat all of them, i tried using it too. Sometimes they dodge the attacks and you cant use blizzard to beat kingdra with one or 2 shots because the gym leaders heals him
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Do you think i could beat clair with a meganium typhlosion feraligatr nd deoxys?
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I taught blizzard to me Feraligatr and KOed all of them.
 

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thats not logical since Gyardos is Water and flying and Kingdras only weakness is Dragon so blizzard wouldn't 1KO like Dragonair well if your pokemon were a higher level than hers then it maybe would work
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well i got a shiny gyarados lvl37 typlosionlvl47 nidoqueenlvl? its in the day care! anf the rest are real low level so im bad
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use eletric moves to baet garados and kingdra
 

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I need to defeat Clair too. I have a Level 53 Typhlosion (well, he should be a Typhlosion but I don't want him to evolve so I gave him an Everstone), a Flaaffy, a Pidgeotto, a Togetic, a Geodude and a Sudowoodo but they never help. I keep having to put them in the Day-Care centre and waiting for ages.
 

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when quilava evolves into Typhlosion its stats get a lot better
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You have to beat the previous seven gym leaders and disband Team Rocket from Goldenrod.
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get an antheros
 

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i only have crobat lv 42 with sludge bomb poison fang fly and bite
typlosion lv 42 with blast burn fire blast lava plume and swift >:(
what else should i put on my team
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ampharos
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I beat the entire gym with a level 54 Typhlosion with the moves; Swift, Lava Plume, Flamethrower and Flamewheel
 

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how
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i need 17 master balls can you gys help me
 

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Im trying to beat her too {even though I haven't entered the gym yet}. I'm training a swinub that has snow cloak. I taught it hail so it has high evasion when used. anyone know where tm blizzard is?
 

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at the department store.... im training a lvl 50 weipinbell but cant beat her. good luck with blizzard! ;)
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lol, u buy it at the department store
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the department store
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The only way I can beat her is if I have a bastiodon.
 

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just use typhlosion. i have him and stock up on revies and potions.
 

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I would say just train your pokemon with blood, sweat, and tears till they get to at least level 40 if you wanna beat clair
 

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use eletric moves and ice moves to take outs the gyarados and the two dragonairs,put any bad effect on the kingdra,a atrract have enourmos effect, and atack them with some powerfull moves
 

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how many pokemon does clair have?
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It's easy to beat her you just give your main pokemon a dragon or electric [ assuming it can learn one of those
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sav b4 battling clair so u can try again if you lous. But it's HARD! Typhlosion and Kinya(fiarow) is my only hop. but thnkz 4 tha "parafusion" thing david. i gotta rmbr that
 

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y would you do tht just keep battling her so you can get exp then the pokemon get exp and lvl up and evolve hopefully
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how do you deafeat clair, i have a lvl 50 weipinbell that cant.... im putting in in the daycare untill lvl 100!
 

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Use a lapras and teach him ice beam avalanche and give him a Nevermeltice. Avalanche is bp 120 when it attacks after the foe, and on a lapras, it always does. Kills dragonairs in 1 hit.
Any thunder type move will kill Gyrados.
Dragon moves destroy Kingdra, but after that, you just need strong moves/good pokemon/good ev's/and STAB - essenatially a strog team, and you'l win.
 

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Ice moves, electric moves, and a lot of luck on Kingdra. Im just about to try to take her on myself....unfortunately i'm doing the Nuzlocke challenge, so if someone faints....they die. I'm scared to even try this battle since i know i'm gonna lose some of my best men
 

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its better if aLL OF YOUR pokemon are lv 50 and you at least have one fire and ice pokemon
 

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you should use a vileplume to get kingdra. i used sleep powder and used mega drain
 

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My team is typhlosion, togekiss, glaceon, bellossom, and poliwrath all at lvl 37 and i still cant beat her. (got a water stone and shiny stone from my pearl game and traded eevee to pearl to get glaceon) it seems hopeless, she keeps getting critical hits on hydro pump which took out everyone but poliwrath who has water absorb. I think i'll go catch a flaaffy and train to an ampharos. My advice is electric, dragon, grass, and ice moves and hyper potions and revival herbs (get on certain days in goldenrod tunnel)
 

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I have got a typhlosion lv 43 gyarados lv29 poliwrath lv27 that doesent know water asorb nidoking lv30 golbat lv27 swinub lv28 and I cant beet her can you help please?
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i have a lvl 57 typhlosion that knows blast burn eruption flamethrower and rock smash,a lvl 17 swinub that know really rubbish moves,a lvl 25 togetic that knows hyper beam, a lvl 90 magnezone that knows thuder and dragon pulse(dont ask me how cause i dont know)and i still cant beat clair cause every time i nearly beat her kingdra she uses a hyper potoin then hyper beam and knocks me out. ive lost so much money to her aswell!!!!!!!!!!
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also use typhlosion teach it blast burn that will help on the dragon types and catch a gyarados and teach it thunder
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you should try raising their levels more. it would help a-lot.
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i have a lvl 39 typhlosion 23 swinub 37 butterfree and 37 amphros wat can i do too beat her ???
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I would sudgest having lots of different kinds of medacines around.
 

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First off you can't get Lugia without beating the 8th gym.... Just sayin and how do you get a lapras?
 

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you can get a lapras on fridays in union cave in the basement in azeala town but one of your pokemon need to know surf
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I used a lvl 30 amphardos for gyrados, and for kindra(for kindra I needed to keep healing my Pokemon) and for dragonair I used blast burn from lvl 44 typhlosion
 

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If you have Feraligatr, teach Dragon Claw (you can get it every Sunday in Goldenrod Departement Store, if you're lucky enough to win the first prize) and with a helpful nature that raise it's attack stat (Brave, Lonely, Adamant, Naughty, etc) it can 1KO-HIT Kingdra. Mine has Dragon Claw with Naughty Nature and lvl. 45, it can kill all Claire's Pokemon without losing any health. Good luck with Feraligatr !
 

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Just get a team full of lv.50 Pokemon and keep battling and Gyarados does learn the TM Thunder which you get at the Department store
 

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I defeat Kingdra using Shiny Gyarado lv 31 and typhlosion lv 49
 

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Will you please trade me your shinny Gyarado for my Vulpix?
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Shiny Gyarados (I think she's reffering to the "red" Gyarados at the Lake of Rage). Just battle it and catch it.
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I've beaten Clair two times. Try evolving your Flaffy into an Ampharos so it can learn Thunderpunch and you could even buy Thunder at the Goldenrod City Department Store. If you can, catch a Swinub (and evolve if you like,)or a Jynx and teach it some decent ice moves to attack Kingdra. I also suggest leveling up your Pokemon if they are a lower level than 30.
 

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You get lapras at union cave only on fri
You have to go to the bottom left water on the main floor and surf forward you'll get there soon
 

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I have 2 swinubs a togitic an arcanie corsola and a typhosion and stll cannot beat the plz help.
 

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I used heracross's close combat lvl 37 killed kingdra in one hit. My heracrosses atk. Is really high cause of protiens. Hope this helped!
 

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If you started with typhlosion (cyndaquil) gyarodos will be a problem. I figured out that it is four times weak to eletric so use lantern! Or chinchou! And don't use a fire type Pokemon! (typhlosion).
 

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Um massive awesome idea you should catch a lapras and train it up to like lvl 40 make sure you have all your Pokemon and use perish song tada bye bye kingdra....
 

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Arbok has the move "Glare"which glares at the foe so much it paralyzes.it can also be learned by others and mew"if you have one lol:
 

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I have all but one Pokemon lvl 60 one I waited like 2weeks might be less to lvl 100 that Pokemon is...Togepi! (no joke!) I gave it everystone to stop evolving now it lokks weak it's the best
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I am saying this just because every one has said just about anything else possible.Her kingdra has low PP moves.So get like 50 hyper positions and keep using them until she runs out of PP.Just giving you more ideas.Of course by now you must have already beaten the game.
 

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I have a pidgeotto level 31, piloswine level 25, sandslash level 32, machoke level 33, gyarados level 31 (who actually KO'd kingdra all by itself even with clair using a hyper potion!) and typlosion level 42. It can be done just you need the technique.
 

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With the tm 27 return teach to last starter Pokemon evoles megamuin[grass]feilgatar[water]typhlosion[fire]and teach one return to rule[teach ulitmate move at blackthorn]thats how to rule
 

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I killed it in one hit with My Shiny Rhyperiors Horn Drill (horn drill is a 1 hit K-O move btw)
 

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I have a lvl 33 onix : headbutt dig dragonbreath rock smash a lvl 35 gyarados whirlpool ice fang strength waterfall a lvl 36 pidgeot twister you-turn fly roost a lvl 36 feraligatr crunch ice fang surf hydro cannon a lvl 36 magneton spark thunder magnet bomb flash and a lvl 30 ponyta fire blast stomp ember flame wheel and can't get past her kingdra it's really annoying my ferligater and gyarados know ice fang which covers the dragonairs my magneton and/or pidgeot cover gyarados but kigdra always kills my Pokemon or clair heals him and then my Pokemon die any advice?
 

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Save before you battle her so if you lose you can turn off the power and etc until you get a critical hi and finish her
 

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I won with low-30s Pokemon, so it can be done! They were:
Larvitar lvl 27
Espeon lvl 31
Magmar lvl 31
Dragonair lvl 31
Victreebel lvl 34
Feraligatr lvl 35

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I beated her with my Pokemon:superman,jxny,sucker,poilwrath,staru and pikachu





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I used my dragonair to defeat clair's two, a... Cant remember (elecrtic type) to deafeat garydos and my kingdra to defeat hers.... Cloooose battle ;D

Fight fire with fire (or dragon with dragon :D)
 

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I havent quite battled clair yet but my bro beat her with pretty much just his feraligatr and it's ice fange! I chose chikorita though and it's now meganium. I also have ampharos(quite slow but strong at the same time),crobat,lanturn,eevee(training in progress) and a heracross which I think is a pretty good team! Anyway good luck to all who havent battled clair yet!
 

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Added Jun 11 2012, ID #514540, by Guest
 
It's very easy to beat Clair. I only used 2 Pokémons:
Jinx (lvl 30) just need two hits to beat each Dragonair and Gyarados (lvl 30) just need to use three times Dragon Rage to kill Kingdra! :D
 

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Added Jun 23 2012, ID #517534, by Guest
 
Use something with Ice Fang or Ice Beam. And train more.



P.S There was a spider on me and I face planted on- to the floor....
 

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Added Sep 23 2012, ID #540751, by TheDarknessPendant
 
If you have an ice type since thats super effective on water and dragon I suggest you get one
 

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Added Oct 13 2012, ID #544382, by vasos1
 
I only used two Pokemon to beat her,
Magneton Lvl 45
Discharge
Magnet Bomb
Thunder Wave
Screech

Feraligatr Lvl 42 (Please note that my Feraligatr is EV trained and his attack is at max. You might have to level him up a bit more - he was at 115 attack during the battle.
Crunch
Surf
Ice Fang
Slash

What I did is throw Magneton out first. Discharge will take care of Gyrados. He'll faint, and she will always switch in Dragonair. Switch in Feraligatr and Ice Fang will take Dragonair out in one hit if you have 115 attack. When Dragonair faints, she'll send in the other, identical Dragonair, so repeat.
Once they are both taken out, she'll switch in Kingdra. Switch in Magneton. He will be able to take a few Hydro Pumps, and hopefully one of the discharges you pull off will paralyze. If he faints, Feraligatr can handle the rest.

A lot of the problem is how under leveled a lot of you are. You can not go in there with all of your Pokemon below 32 and expect to win. You will have to train a little bit. The guest who used Jynx and Gyrados is either lying or his Pokemon are EV trained. It's not a matter of how to knock them out - ice attacks will work. Jynx nor Gyrados will not outspeed Kingdra who will just Dragon Pulse them to death. Even an Sp Atk EV trained Jynx would need more than Ice Beam to OHKO Clair.
 

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Added Oct 24 2012, ID #546509, by Guest
 
WOW! I thaught my Pokemon where behind. I like to keep my Pokemon above the level of the gyms. If the gyms are lvl 40, I will make my Pokemon lvl 45. Some really good recomendations are.... The place outside the safari zone (tourus gives you 600+ exp), ice cave, below blackthorn city and lake of rage(surf until you find a gyriadose 1000+ exp)
 

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Added Nov 15 2012, ID #551194, by Guest
 
I used just my dragonair that I got as a dratini from goldenrod city game corner which made beating her easy.

My team:
Typhlosion lv45
Feraligatr lv 45
Meganium lv 45
Ampharos lv45
Crobat lv47
Dragonair lv49
 

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